Jefferson Davis 
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Re: “High-Flying Confederates

"Flagger-trash"? Typical. When facts and truth fail, resort to juvenile insults. Stay classy, "Actually Interested in History". Thank you for displaying your true colors.

Fly em' high, Virginia Flaggers!

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Posted by Jefferson Davis on 10/29/2014 at 6:14 PM

Re: “High-Flying Confederates

"Most Germans still honor their WWII soldiers but they don't fly Nazi flags."

Oh yes, the old "When facts, reason, and decency fail, toss out the inflammatory “connection” of the Confederate Battle Flag to the Nazi swastika" routine. Clever.

This analogy can only be based on ignorance or a desire to incite. At no time in its existence did the Confederate Army take part in the murder of 6 million people because of their race. Any comparison is an insult to Holocaust victims, survivors, and their families. The grandsons of the same Confederate soldiers these people honor, fought and defeated the Nazi army, many of them carrying the Confederate battle flags of their grandfathers with them overseas.

Fly em' high, Virginia Flaggers!

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Posted by Jefferson Davis on 10/29/2014 at 9:57 AM

Re: “High-Flying Confederates

"Got any photos of the Battle Flag being flown at the chapel before the 1980's?"

No...but what does that have to do with the price of eggs in China? Got any photos of a US and Virginia flag on a pole just a few yards in front of the chapel prior to 2000? NO, but it didn't stop the Museum from erecting one several years ago. By your reasoning, NOTHING new can be added to the grounds...?

There are many photographs showing the Soldiers raising and lowering a Confederate Battle Flag on the grounds of the Old Soldier’s home, and many others of the Confederate Battle Flag flying.

History is made at a moment in time. Tradition is made over a continuation of time. The Chapel does have a historical tradition of flying two Confederate Battle Flags, from 1993 – 2010. Added to that 17 year period is the time from 1884-1941 when the soldiers themselves flew a 10x10 Confederate Battle Flag from the Lee Camp pole for 57 years, making a grand total of 74 years in which the Confederate Battle Flag has had a presence in Confederate Memorial Park.

Fly em' high, Virginia Flaggers!

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Posted by Jefferson Davis on 10/29/2014 at 9:50 AM

Re: “High-Flying Confederates

Aww. Actually, "Actually Interested", you might want to check your facts before calling names. "Ignorant" of the contributions of Yankees to the Old Soldiers' Home? Check their post from 2011...

"Twenty years after Gen. Robert E. Lee rode into Appomattox and surrendered his tattered army, ending the War Between the States, a memorial chapel was built in Richmond in memory of the 260,000 Confederate soldiers who died during the conflict. The Pelham Chapel – Confederate War Memorial is designated a National Historic Landmark by the U.S., and has been granted the status of Confederate Monument by the Commonwealth of Virginia.

The organ in the chapel was donated by a group of Union veterans from Lynn, Mass. One of the contributors to the soldiers' home that surrounded the chapel was Gen. Ulysses S. Grant. And a Union private from Massachusetts donated his annual pension to support the home.

Confederate flags had flown over the grounds since the opening of the Old Soldiers Home in 1885. Those flags did not trouble the Union soldiers who donated the organ to the chapel; nor did they trouble Ulysses S. Grant. They were placed there by Confederate Veterans, to memorialize the Confederate dead, and honor the living.

Fast forward 150 years…on the eve of the Sesquicentennial Commemoration of the War Between the States, June 1st, 2010, Confederate Battle Flags were forcibly removed from the Confederate War Memorial by a restriction in the lease renewal, at the insistence of the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts.

This is in direct violation of Virginia law, which clearly states: “it shall be unlawful for the authorities of the locality, or any other person or persons, to disturb or interfere with any monuments or memorials so erected, or to prevent its citizens from taking proper measures and exercising proper means for the protection, preservation and care of same. For purposes of this section, "disturb or interfere with" includes removal of, damaging or defacing monuments or memorials, or, in the case of the War Between the States, the placement of Union markings or monuments on previously designated Confederate memorials or the placement of Confederate markings or monuments on previously designated Union memorials.” (§ 15.2-1812)

As citizens of Virginia and descendants of Confederate soldiers who gallantly answered Virginia’s call to defend her, we demand that the VMFA remove these blatantly prejudicial restrictions and allow the Confederate Battle Flags to once again fly on the Confederate War Memorial."

"Ignorant Flaggers"? Hey "Actually Interested in History"...Stop being so divisive!

Too bad folks like you can't follow the example of those Yankees in the 1890's and show some respect for the Confederate Soldier.

Fly em' high, Virginia Flaggers!

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Posted by Jefferson Davis on 10/28/2014 at 11:20 PM

Re: “High-Flying Confederates

"That no one can see from the highway." Seriously?

Fly em high, Va Flaggers!

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Posted by Jefferson Davis on 10/28/2014 at 8:08 PM

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